# So much of debugging is about playing the game of lists (and so much debugging is still necessary… * * * So much of debugging is about playing the game of lists (and so much debugging is still necessary with modern design tools) that I wonder if people who are abnormally bad at the list game are filtered out of software engineering at the very beginning stages — finding debugging extremely difficult and not realizing that it’s a very particular type of memory / imagination to blame. By [John Ohno](https://medium.com/@enkiv2) on [February 19, 2018](https://medium.com/p/c732e774cfaa). [Canonical link](https://medium.com/@enkiv2/so-much-of-debugging-is-about- playing-the-game-of-lists-and-so-much-debugging-is-still- necessary-c732e774cfaa) Exported from [Medium](https://medium.com) on September 18, 2020.