# 2024-04-18

-   I  [[listened]] to [[Degrowth vs Eco-Modernism]].
    -   It's a good episode.
    -   I like [[Kai Heron]], and I've found the debate between various strands of [[ecosocialist]] thought very interesting.
    -   But I also lament the time spent disagreeing amongst ourselves on the left.
    -   Is it ultimately useful?  What if all this intellectual effort could be spent on bringing about a transition away from capitalism, and towards ecosocialism?
    -   I don't know - perhaps the debate is contributing to that transition, in part, in a roundabout.  And I suppose that if we don't know what we stand for, we can't meaningfully work towards it.
    -   But still.  It has vibes of [[The People's Front of Judea]] vs the Judean People's Front.
    -   Not got to the end yet, so perhaps this will be covered…

-   Listened to [[Opening the Vicious Circle of Risk Rating (ft. Ariel Bogle)]]