- [[distributed press 2021-05-19]]
- I want to work on [[agora proposal platform]]
- [[agora proposals]] for proposal ideas
- #meetings
	- [[logical tea party]]
		- 2pm
	- Call series about [[distributed press]] and related topics
		- [[hypha coop]] call with [[Paul Frazee]]
		- 8am
		- https://link.hypha.coop/compost-calls
		- https://github.com/hyphacoop/distributed-press-organizing/issues/39
		- Call topics:
			- [[unwalled.garden]]
				- questions
					- how is this similar to/different than [[ctzn]]
			- [[social api]]
				- [[matters.news]]
			- [[indieweb]]
	- Attendees
	- [[flancian]]
	- [[vera]]
	- [[Paul Frazee]]
	- [[benhylau]]
		- gateways can censor content
	- [[guo]]
		- looking at [[ipfs]] or [[hypercore]]
		- [[webmentions]] [[microformats]]
	- [[sutty]]
	- [[fauno]]
	  
	  [[ipfs gateways]]
	- [[Paul Frazee]]
		- say you're [[twitter]], 1000 users.
		- 1000 users only one using service but having to pay for storage/bandwidth of 1000 poor scaling properties
		- gateway not feasible model
		- what are the costs
		- magic of the mesh
		- serverless clients participate in network
	- [[guo]]
		- gateways become the point of failure in a distributed network
	- [[flancian]]
		- subsidies gateway not for profit
		  
		  [[beaker]]
	- social network on beaker
	- got discouraged with social networks
		- came back
	- people wanna be able to share around links
	- didn't have push messaging system
	- take advantage of social graph
	- ux killer
		- people expect to get notifcations from people
		- people need to follow out of band
		- limited push message
		- aggregator service notifications
			- really close to running gateway, running a service
			- let's just use services
			- take your data and move to other "place"
			  
			  
			  [[minimum viable exchange format]]
	- all these technologies converge into this
	- [[indieweb]]
	- [[microformats]]
	- [[minimal social graph]]
		- [[guo]]
			- can be [[ipfs]] can be [[dat]]
			- have to have an aggregator, how do you know if there's new content
			- how do you do search
			- separate data aggregator and host
		- [[flancian]]
			- [[underlay project]]
		- [[Paul Frazee]]
			- [[data mesh]]
				- basically function like database
					- way for semantic
					- tables in there with universal ide (url based to find schema)
					- universal global data mesh, with global semantics
					- [[governance of the commons]]
		- [[guo]]
			- if we can determine ownership we can help with [[governance]] issue
			- if it's my data, there is no [[governance]] issue
			  
			  
			  [[commons mesh]]
	- how do you end up in a situation where [[governance]] is required
	- what are defaults
	- sign up for first time, what's being suggested
	  
	  
	  [[fatal ambiguity]]
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