- [[2022-08-10 21:25:44]] [[@doubleloop:matrix.org]] ([link](https://develop.element.io/#/room/!WhilafaLxfJNoigHCj:matrix.org/$v_XB5jQO6BOgbg8qP4H8UuCamE7_F8J7ibzq5Yp9AF8)):
  - [[Leviathan]] is what Thomas Hobbes used to describe a strong [[state]].  So indeed so, frequently intertwined with Moloch.