- [[2022-11-20 06:47:38]] [[@3wc:autonomic.zone]] ([link](https://develop.element.io/#/room/!akkaZImONyQWKswVdt:matrix.org/$1668923258242qxCVe:autonomic.zone)):
  - or docker swarm has been recommended over both, it's what we use as the basis for coopcloud.tech https://github.com/BretFisher/ama/issues/8#issuecomment-367575011