Participants: me, Lion Kimbro, Kartik Agaram.

Notes

TechMeet, Lion's Internet Office,
2022-07-21 11:55pm, Seattle time
2022-07-22 6:55am, UTC
2022-07-22 11:55pm, Yekaterinburg, Russia

lines.love

• trying to mimic a notebook like paper and pencil

Ivan Sutherland, SketchPad

• Lines

• Pensieve

• Linking without Names; Anonymous (not titled, not named) Identifiers

• an Editor that folds information behind the words

• APL & BQN — https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/index.html

• Lion's Project: D&D, Communities, DM dynamics

• Conversational Spaces in real life and Internet

• Conversational Tags that anyone can attach or detach to utterances, and that infect replies to ripple through a conversation

• Preserving Valuable things from conversational spaces w/ ForgiveAndForgetInSoftware

• Text vs. Speech

• "Orality" — such as "The Hacker's Dictionary" (programming = an oral culture)

  • It's not about spoken vs. written

  • It's more about: History is constantly lost, unless you make an effort

• …

  • Plato's argument against writing (https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing): when you write something down, you have only the illusion of understanding it

  • just the act of writing something down does something to you

  • Feynman and others: if you aren't interacting w/ something written down, you aren't thinking

  • we read too much ((cell phones)) https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/reading-ourselves-to-death

  • "writing for dead people"

    • is anybody going to read this?

    • the universe has a way of hitting you down; ephemerality; crumbling sands

  • Troika! — https://www.troikarpg.com/

  • Borges — "Every moment is immortal, but there are so many of them, you get lost"

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel <button class="pull-url autopull" value="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel">pull</button>

• "Is it worth believing in?" or "Do I like it?"

• "Why is this God so cruel?" "You have to submit, and then it makes sense to you."

• "We shouldn't believe things just because they are true; We should believe them because they are worth believing."

• platforms/anti-platform — over-generalizing from special cases

• multi-component systems

• Metronomicon — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwSoT81qd8

• "Write down what you think, and let it grow." "If it's written, it happened."

• Desktop GUI by Web; Creating a Multi-user system this way

• math notation project: https://us.metamath.org

• math proof project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizar_system <button class="pull-url autopull" value="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizar_system">pull</button>

Why we write

• https://web.archive.org/web/20160103034833/http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-next-ten-billion-years.html

http://akkartik.name/post/wangs-carpets — how minds can be both materialistic and souls can yet exist

Hogfather, from Terry Pratchet's discworld, on the relationship between ideals/dreams and matter:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBnENlXt-H4

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS5Yw_YsHA

anti-communication - Herbert Brun
SmolNet - Fediverse - "Commercial Web" - IndieWeb - (anti-complexity movements)

Fediverse — network of social networks

Mastodon:

• https://lor.sh/@bouncepaw

• https://merveilles.town/@akkartik

• Lion's to come

http://akkartik.name/contact

What Kartik thinks of when he thinks of every moment being immortal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b005iHf8Z3g