∂ part of node [[jeff-tang]]
Q: What do you need?
- Let's talk more!
Q: would publishing Athens to web be useful? Agora
- wikilinks with brackets, broadcast to all digital gardens participating
Q: How does Athens fit in the wider ecosystem?
- A: unfortunately not lots of collaboration.
- A: some chats with Foam and logseq. logseq have the most in common; they use clojurescript/datascript.
- A: it's probably too hard to merge projects or come up with a shared vision.
- A: coordination cost is high. Expected value is not very high in the immediate. We are all trying to be successful, then
A coordination problem
- Civilization suffers from it. We need to believe that it can be solved, but it's unclear how to go about it.
- Most recent examples of successful standards come from crypto. In the crypto space you have open protocols, a few companies work exclusively on exchanges and interop.
W3C standard: would you be happy if that happened?
- Jeff: Yes! But does everyone want that? Coordination again.
- logseq started one month before Athens; similar number of contributors. Wanted to partner with them, we had an agreement. First a standard, then perhaps even merging; we had similar visions, were using similar technologies.
- Coordinating was considered too difficult in the end at this stage.
Hub-like standard? Periphery. Hypothesis: multiplayer is key. Hub provides multiplayer, a social graph.
- Beautiful but very idealistic.
- A: I'm also very pragmatic though.
- Social knowledge graphs
Look up: Nate Liason -- "effortless output in Roam". More for beginners.
- He has published his brain: https://www.nateliason.com/brain