"We can't rely on climate catastrophe to start the revolution" interview with Kai Heron
Featuring : Kai Heron
~00:32:59 Capitalist realism is no longer a thing. We can imagine plenty of other futures. What we need to do now is figure out how to get to them.
~00:34:30 Do we need somethng that goes a bit beyond secular rationality to pull people in? Something spiritual?
~00:35:38 Or it could be a psychoanalytical thing - based on desire.