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#push [[meditations on moloch]]
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[[moloch]] of the thousand terrible faces of humanity
- [[moloch]] who hides cowardly the [[suffering of others]]
- [[moloch]] of uncontrolled, hypocritical, lazy [[capitalism]] and the adoration of fixed [[hierarchies]]
- [[moloch]] who we may [[slay]], we may [[save]], we may [[subdue]]
- #pull [[engels]] [[marx]] [[ginsberg]] [[alexander]]
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[[moloch]] of the thousand terrible faces of humanity
Moloch
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a [[being]].
- [[juntos venceremos a moloch]]
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an [[egregore]].
- Apologies for calling it a [[thing]] at some point.
- Called by some [[the machine]].
- Lives in [[Antiflancia]], maybe.
- [[wp]] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
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I believe [[humanity]] is [[entangled]] with [[Moloch]].
- A manifestation of ignorance, greed and lack of coordination which keeps us in a suboptimal space.
- #pull [[meditations on moloch]]
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Moloch is a high dimensional vector against interesting gradients in [[protopoi]], often taking the form of [[violence]] (the dark side of kings, states) and unsolved [[coordination problems]].
- Sometimes weakened through history after people unlocked new tools for cooperation.
- Currently includes social evils due to missed opportunities and the tendency of self-sustaining systems to stay put in idiosyncratic equilibriums, local optima.
- Better optima become available with improvements in availability of resources, and improvements for communication and collaboration.
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The Agora is my proposal for a tool for giving chase, and maybe out-competing, [[Moloch]].
- If we ever find or catch up to them, we'll ask them plenty of questions and offer to disentangle from them peacefully first.
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But I think it is with the [[Commons]] in our inventory as a tool we'll [[slay Moloch]] if we have to.
- #pull [[slaying moloch]]
- [[twitter]] https://flancia.org/t/moloch
- I read [[meditations on moloch]] for [[node club]] by [[alan gingsberg]]
- moloch kinda reminds me of the machine in [[bolo'bolo]]
- we are all moloch, moloch is the apparatus, moloch is not a person.
- What does the [[death of moloch]] look like?
- how do we kill moloch without killing ourselves
Moloch
a Biblical thing
is a name or a term which appears in the Hebrew Bible several times, primarily in the book of Leviticus. The Bible strongly condemns practices which are associated with Moloch, practices which appear to have included child sacrifice.
a poem by [[Allen Ginsberg]] (part of [[Howl]])
'Moloch' has been figuratively used in reference to a person or a thing which demands or requires a very costly sacrifice.
sphinx of cement and aluminum
Something has been sacrified to Moloch. Modern materials but an old god.
Moloch in [[Metropolis]].
whose mind is pure machinery!
Anti-technology?
whose blood is running money!
[[Anti-capitalist]]?
whose fingers are ten armies!
Anti-war?
There's a lot of exclamation marks and angry energy.
Moloch who entered my soul early!
[[Hegemony]].
Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy!
Yearning for nature?
Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky!
^ [[The Matrix]] vibes.
After a first read through, I'm thinking Ginsberg was seriously angry about over-consumption and technology in the pursuit of money, at the expense of nature (or something more 'natural'). I don't know who he thinks has sold out and made this sacrifice. People in general? He himself maybe. I should read the other parts.
Words to describe Moloch
- Solitude!
- Filth!
- Ugliness!
- Nightmare
- Loveless
- Heavy judger
- Incomprehensible prison
- Crossbone soulless jailhouse
- Congress of sorrows
- etc

- I read [[meditations on moloch]] for [[node club]] by [[alan gingsberg]]
- moloch kinda reminds me of the machine in [[bolo'bolo]]
- we are all moloch, moloch is the apparatus, moloch is not a person.
- What does the [[death of moloch]] look like?
- how do we kill moloch without killing ourselves
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- [[2022-08-10 19:28:04]] [[@charismatic_shell:matrix.org]] (link):
Leviathan (ΧΧΧΧͺΧ) is one of the rulers of Babylon. It is a sea monster, a large serpent with impenetrable scales. Leviathan does not give you choice, it just does what it intends to. It can destroy your home, kill somebody, but it is not to blame, for it is more powerful, than you.
Do we have Leviathan in our mythology? A friend of [[Moloch]]'s, so it seems.
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[[2023-01-20 20:24:53]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] (link):
- even if one thinks the VC scene is overall a net negative for society, I say maybe let [[Moloch]] fund the revolution if they want, and let us just worry about making those resources contribute to the greater good.
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[[2022-11-19 16:55:51+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109371519925369493 :
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I've been telling [[Moloch]] in the face I'm coming, and they don't seem to pay attention to it.
Maybe I'm like a bug about to headbutt a windshield.
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[[2022-12-01 23:29:47+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109441016648822963 :
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"It is not me, but you, who will likely slay [[Moloch]]."
-- from the Chronicles of Flancia, 2023.
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[[2022-12-04 17:48:25+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109456661220524953 :
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We could stab [[Moloch]] in the heart at first sight if you wanted, but I'd rather we kept a policy of non violence as a default.
Moloch, after all, seems to be an [[egregore]] which evolved with us. As such they're entangled with human culture and bodies. I don't see a reason to assume they're all bad, nor that slaying it wouldn't cause needless suffering.
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[[2022-12-14 20:10:53+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109513844545238450 :
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Of course we will slay [[Moloch]].
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[[2022-12-16 10:51:58+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109522971424999561 :
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I saw clearly that [[Maitreya]] will disarm [[Moloch]].
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[[2023-01-04 15:16:34+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109631595748266320 :
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Eran las cuatro y cuarto cuando me acordΓ© de que juntos venceremos a #Moloch.
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- [[2023-01-04 15:48:50+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109631722631805110 :
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[[2023-01-04 23:08:47+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109633452611648670 :
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AlgΓΊn dΓa, dicen.
AlgΓΊn dΓa venceremos a [[Moloch]].
ΒΏPero si no hoy, cuΓ‘ndo?
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[[2023-01-29 16:31:44+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109773449078074544 :
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Don't get me wrong: you can be weak without being pathetic, and you can be pathetic without being weak.
But I believe [[Moloch]] is pathetic and weak.
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[[2023-01-31 19:44:21+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109785531138288922 :
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"We will try to get to the heart of [[Moloch]] tonight, and on the 31st of every month by default if we fail today."
From "The Chronicles of Flancia", ca. 2027.
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- [[2022-10-21 14:33:57+00:00]] @[[flancian]]: https://twitter.com/flancian/status/1583466624497389568
This I tell you, [[Moloch]]: I'll slay you if I have to, without killing
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[[flancian]] https://twitter.com/flancian/status/1576190763968253953
- [[moloch]]! @an_agora
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[[2023-01-31 19:41:01+00:00]] @[[flaneur@merveilles.town]] https://merveilles.town/@flaneur/109785518032368449 :
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"We will get to the heart of [[Moloch]] tonight", they said.
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