Attending: [[Ivan Minutillo]], [[Mayel de Borniol]], [[Flancian]]

Intros

• Ivan: a user of social.coop but not very active so far
• Previously discussed with [[Eduardo Mercovich]] how social.coop could advance their experiment w.r.t. bonfire

Flacian: a year ago we set up a test instance: http://bonfire.social.coop/

maybe we could use it as Loomio replacement or complement (like the meta space for members to discuss the co-op)?

could use SSO to log in which we have set up (bonfire supports oauth and openid connect)

this would start as a local-users-only instance (without federation turned on) or at least ability to limit polls to members only

the local-only approach would make sense also for the bonfire project

• ‘accepted answer’ which was developed for the open science project (interesting) could also benefit social.coop
• there’s also reactions in the works
• the [[decision making]] extension would be more sophisticated than polls
  • [[ukuvota]]: ukuvota.world, ukuvota.xyz
• Q: would someone in social.coop be interested in helping build these features together?
  • facets: design and ux; coding
  • a researcher with experience in the social aspects as well would be great
  • last year a group of edumerco’s students worked on the decision making extension for bonfire; they did prototyping based on some user research.
  • whoever picks this up could take the above prototype and run with it
  • possible action: we could do a call for participators in social.coop.
  • Ivan: one of the policykit devs is in social.coop.
    • risottobias@ :)
  • Mayel: this could be a from-first-principles project, or the focus could be ‘what is missing/wrong in loomio for social.coop’.

Federation testing is progressing in bonfire, but it’s not considered ready yet, so an internal-only instance is a good fit.

• campfire is now federation-enabled
• using bounties to drive optimization

On the potential dev project

• [[elixir]] plus [[liveview]]
  • [[liveview native]] has os x / ios and soon windows/android targets
• [[graphql]] api
• a pure frontend prototype using tailwind would also help
• extension generator lets people get the right scaffolding
• demo (recent) extension, developed in a few hours: https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/content_labelling_in_bonfire/

Bonfire now implements a reddit-like threading model

Next steps:

• Bring up dev possibility with TWG
• Update bonfire.social.coop and set up SSO for it
• Bring up overall project with the OC
• Ask Nathan w.r.t. governance modeling/research aspect

The issue of use/participation mismatch in social.coop has been there since the beginning :)

• Bonfire’s governance tool design is inspired (or more) by [[sociocracy]] and [[ukuvota]]

Screenshots of decision extension prototype:

⥅ [[https://doc.anagora.org/uploads/upload_a4de741632f49cdc8237590f7d553d62.png]]

• A: that’s our focus right now. There are bounties out for optimization. Financial support for more bounties could help.
• https://www.loomio.com/p/IfnNLueo/please-allocate-funds-for-community-contributions-allocation-poll-from-fwg- took place and bonfire came in #8th

Attending: [[Ivan Minutillo]], [[Mayel de Borniol]], [[Flancian]]

Intros

• Ivan: a user of social.coop but not very active so far
• Previously discussed with [[Eduardo Mercovich]] how social.coop could advance their experiment w.r.t. bonfire

Flacian: a year ago we set up a test instance: http://bonfire.social.coop/

maybe we could use it as Loomio replacement or complement (like the meta space for members to discuss the co-op)?

could use SSO to log in which we have set up (bonfire supports oauth and openid connect)

this would start as a local-users-only instance (without federation turned on) or at least ability to limit polls to members only

the local-only approach would make sense also for the bonfire project

• ‘accepted answer’ which was developed for the open science project (interesting) could also benefit social.coop
• there’s also reactions in the works
• the [[decision making]] extension would be more sophisticated than polls
  • [[ukuvota]]: ukuvota.world, ukuvota.xyz
• Q: would someone in social.coop be interested in helping build these features together?
  • facets: design and ux; coding
  • a researcher with experience in the social aspects as well would be great
  • last year a group of edumerco’s students worked on the decision making extension for bonfire; they did prototyping based on some user research.
  • whoever picks this up could take the above prototype and run with it
  • possible action: we could do a call for participators in social.coop.
  • Ivan: one of the policykit devs is in social.coop.
    • risottobias@ :)
  • Mayel: this could be a from-first-principles project, or the focus could be ‘what is missing/wrong in loomio for social.coop’.

Federation testing is progressing in bonfire, but it’s not considered ready yet, so an internal-only instance is a good fit.

• campfire is now federation-enabled
• using bounties to drive optimization

On the potential dev project

• [[elixir]] plus [[liveview]]
  • [[liveview native]] has os x / ios and soon windows/android targets
• [[graphql]] api
• a pure frontend prototype using tailwind would also help
• extension generator lets people get the right scaffolding
• demo (recent) extension, developed in a few hours: https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/content_labelling_in_bonfire/

Bonfire now implements a reddit-like threading model

Next steps:

• Bring up dev possibility with TWG
• Update bonfire.social.coop and set up SSO for it
• Bring up overall project with the OC
• Ask Nathan w.r.t. governance modeling/research aspect

The issue of use/participation mismatch in social.coop has been there since the beginning :)

• Bonfire’s governance tool design is inspired (or more) by [[sociocracy]] and [[ukuvota]]

Screenshots of decision extension prototype:

⥅ [[https://doc.anagora.org/uploads/upload_a4de741632f49cdc8237590f7d553d62.png]]

• A: that’s our focus right now. There are bounties out for optimization. Financial support for more bounties could help.
• https://www.loomio.com/p/IfnNLueo/please-allocate-funds-for-community-contributions-allocation-poll-from-fwg- took place and bonfire came in #8th

Attending: [[Ivan Minutillo]], [[Mayel de Borniol]], [[Flancian]]

Intros

• Ivan: a user of social.coop but not very active so far
• Previously discussed with [[Eduardo Mercovich]] how social.coop could advance their experiment w.r.t. bonfire

Flacian: a year ago we set up a test instance: http://bonfire.social.coop/

maybe we could use it as Loomio replacement or complement (like the meta space for members to discuss the co-op)?

could use SSO to log in which we have set up (bonfire supports oauth and openid connect)

this would start as a local-users-only instance (without federation turned on) or at least ability to limit polls to members only

the local-only approach would make sense also for the bonfire project

• ‘accepted answer’ which was developed for the open science project (interesting) could also benefit social.coop
• there’s also reactions in the works
• the [[decision making]] extension would be more sophisticated than polls
  • [[ukuvota]]: ukuvota.world, ukuvota.xyz
• Q: would someone in social.coop be interested in helping build these features together?
  • facets: design and ux; coding
  • a researcher with experience in the social aspects as well would be great
  • last year a group of edumerco’s students worked on the decision making extension for bonfire; they did prototyping based on some user research.
  • whoever picks this up could take the above prototype and run with it
  • possible action: we could do a call for participators in social.coop.
  • Ivan: one of the policykit devs is in social.coop.
    • risottobias@ :)
  • Mayel: this could be a from-first-principles project, or the focus could be ‘what is missing/wrong in loomio for social.coop’.

Federation testing is progressing in bonfire, but it’s not considered ready yet, so an internal-only instance is a good fit.

• campfire is now federation-enabled
• using bounties to drive optimization

On the potential dev project

• [[elixir]] plus [[liveview]]
  • [[liveview native]] has os x / ios and soon windows/android targets
• [[graphql]] api
• a pure frontend prototype using tailwind would also help
• extension generator lets people get the right scaffolding
• demo (recent) extension, developed in a few hours: https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/content_labelling_in_bonfire/

Bonfire now implements a reddit-like threading model

Next steps:

• Bring up dev possibility with TWG
• Update bonfire.social.coop and set up SSO for it
• Bring up overall project with the OC
• Ask Nathan w.r.t. governance modeling/research aspect

The issue of use/participation mismatch in social.coop has been there since the beginning :)

• Bonfire’s governance tool design is inspired (or more) by [[sociocracy]] and [[ukuvota]]

Screenshots of decision extension prototype:

⥅ [[https://doc.anagora.org/uploads/upload_a4de741632f49cdc8237590f7d553d62.png]]

• A: that’s our focus right now. There are bounties out for optimization. Financial support for more bounties could help.
• https://www.loomio.com/p/IfnNLueo/please-allocate-funds-for-community-contributions-allocation-poll-from-fwg- took place and bonfire came in #8th

Attending: [[Ivan Minutillo]], [[Mayel de Borniol]], [[Flancian]]

Intros

• Ivan: a user of social.coop but not very active so far
• Previously discussed with [[Eduardo Mercovich]] how social.coop could advance their experiment w.r.t. bonfire

Flacian: a year ago we set up a test instance: http://bonfire.social.coop/

maybe we could use it as Loomio replacement or complement (like the meta space for members to discuss the co-op)?

could use SSO to log in which we have set up (bonfire supports oauth and openid connect)

this would start as a local-users-only instance (without federation turned on) or at least ability to limit polls to members only

the local-only approach would make sense also for the bonfire project

• ‘accepted answer’ which was developed for the open science project (interesting) could also benefit social.coop
• there’s also reactions in the works
• the [[decision making]] extension would be more sophisticated than polls
  • [[ukuvota]]: ukuvota.world, ukuvota.xyz
• Q: would someone in social.coop be interested in helping build these features together?
  • facets: design and ux; coding
  • a researcher with experience in the social aspects as well would be great
  • last year a group of edumerco’s students worked on the decision making extension for bonfire; they did prototyping based on some user research.
  • whoever picks this up could take the above prototype and run with it
  • possible action: we could do a call for participators in social.coop.
  • Ivan: one of the policykit devs is in social.coop.
    • risottobias@ :)
  • Mayel: this could be a from-first-principles project, or the focus could be ‘what is missing/wrong in loomio for social.coop’.

Federation testing is progressing in bonfire, but it’s not considered ready yet, so an internal-only instance is a good fit.

• campfire is now federation-enabled
• using bounties to drive optimization

On the potential dev project

• [[elixir]] plus [[liveview]]
  • [[liveview native]] has os x / ios and soon windows/android targets
• [[graphql]] api
• a pure frontend prototype using tailwind would also help
• extension generator lets people get the right scaffolding
• demo (recent) extension, developed in a few hours: https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/content_labelling_in_bonfire/

Bonfire now implements a reddit-like threading model

Next steps:

• Bring up dev possibility with TWG
• Update bonfire.social.coop and set up SSO for it
• Bring up overall project with the OC
• Ask Nathan w.r.t. governance modeling/research aspect

The issue of use/participation mismatch in social.coop has been there since the beginning :)

• Bonfire’s governance tool design is inspired (or more) by [[sociocracy]] and [[ukuvota]]

Screenshots of decision extension prototype:

⥅ [[https://doc.anagora.org/uploads/upload_a4de741632f49cdc8237590f7d553d62.png]]

• A: that’s our focus right now. There are bounties out for optimization. Financial support for more bounties could help.
• https://www.loomio.com/p/IfnNLueo/please-allocate-funds-for-community-contributions-allocation-poll-from-fwg- took place and bonfire came in #8th