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📄 Moloch.md contributed by 👤 @flancian ️🔗 ✍️

a [[being]].
- #pull [[Egregore]].
- #pull [[Meditations on Moloch]]
- [[moloch]] of the thousand terrible faces of humanity
- [[moloch]] who hides cowardly the [[suffering of others]]
- [[moloch]] of uncontrolled, hypocritical, lazy [[capitalism]] and the adoration of fixed [[hierarchies]]
- [[moloch]] who we may [[slay]], we may [[save]], we may try to [[subdue]] or [[disentangle
- #pull [[Engels]] [[Marx]] [[Ginsberg]] [[Alexander]]
- #push [[burn Moloch]]
  - We could [[burn [[Moloch]]]] if we have to, but only peacefully and for the greater good.

a [[book]].
- by [[kuprin]].

[[Moloch in literature and popular culture]]:

In the 19th century, "Moloch" came to be used allegorically for any idol or cause requiring excessive sacrifice.[1] Bertrand Russell in 1903 used Moloch to describe oppressive religion, and Winston Churchill in his 1948 history The Gathering Storm used "Moloch" as a metaphor for Adolf Hitler’s cult of personality. -> [[Alexander Sokurov]] -> [[Flaubert]] through [[Salammbo]] -> [[Asimov]] through [[The Dead Past]]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dead_Past

This might belong in [[Moloch]]:

Note from earlier in 2024: Somehow I arrived at [[e acc]] ([[e/acc]] is not a good Agora link as slashes usually mean actions, and action e/ currently doesn’t exist). I can instantly relate mildly with their utopian side I guess, even as I dislike many of their positions and their super-capitalist stance. Also [[Shkreli]] is involved, sigh.

I’m writing an [[Open Letter to Moloch]]. Wish us luck, I guess? :)

I believe Maitreya will defeat [[Moloch]]. Meaning it will heal us — heal the system that became [[entangled with Moloch]] (the [[egregore]]), heal us humans and our friends of [[carbon]] and [[silicon]].

How we will do this is the recurring topic in these letters, in these [[fragments]].

Back here on [[2024-10-25]]. I still think of [[Moloch]] often, at work and in daily life. I feel like I’ve lost some battles with them this year maybe, or I haven’t made as much progress as I had hoped, but given the scope of my aspirations I think I may need to just adjust my expectations :) Or at least extend the timelines, as usual…

📄 moloch.md contributed by 👤 @flancian ️🔗 ✍️

Moloch

a [[being]].
- [[juntos venceremos a moloch]]
- an [[egregore]].
  - Apologies for calling it a [[thing]] at some point.
  - Called by some [[the machine]].
  - Lives in [[Antiflancia]], maybe.
- [[wp]] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
- I believe [[humanity]] is [[entangled]] with [[Moloch]].
  - A manifestation of ignorance, greed and lack of coordination which keeps us in a suboptimal space.
  - #pull [[meditations on moloch]]
  - Moloch is a high dimensional vector against interesting gradients in [[protopoi]], often taking the form of [[violence]] (the dark side of kings, states) and unsolved [[coordination problems]].
    - Sometimes weakened through history after people unlocked new tools for cooperation.
    - Currently includes social evils due to missed opportunities and the tendency of self-sustaining systems to stay put in idiosyncratic equilibriums, local optima.
    - Better optima become available with improvements in availability of resources, and improvements for communication and collaboration.
- The Agora is my proposal for a tool for giving chase, and maybe out-competing, [[Moloch]].
  - If we ever find or catch up to them, we’ll ask them plenty of questions and offer to disentangle from them peacefully first.
  - But I think it is with the [[Commons]] in our inventory as a tool we’ll [[slay Moloch]] if we have to.
    - #pull [[slaying moloch]]
  - [[twitter]] https://flancia.org/t/moloch

📄 logseq/pages/moloch.md contributed by 👤 @vera

I read [[meditations on moloch]] for [[node club]] by [[alan gingsberg]]
moloch kinda reminds me of the machine in [[bolo’bolo]]
we are all moloch, moloch is the apparatus, moloch is not a person.
What does the [[death of moloch]] look like?
how do we kill moloch without killing ourselves

📄 moloch.md contributed by 👤 @neil ️🔗 ✍️

Moloch

a Biblical thing

is a name or a term which appears in the Hebrew Bible several times, primarily in the book of Leviticus. The Bible strongly condemns practices which are associated with Moloch, practices which appear to have included child sacrifice.

– Moloch - Wikipedia

a poem by [[Allen Ginsberg]] (part of [[Howl]])

‘Moloch’ has been figuratively used in reference to a person or a thing which demands or requires a very costly sacrifice.

– Moloch - Wikipedia

sphinx of cement and aluminum

Something has been sacrified to Moloch. Modern materials but an old god.

⥅ [[images/moloch.png]]

Moloch in [[Metropolis]].

whose mind is pure machinery!

Anti-technology?

whose blood is running money!

[[Anti-capitalist]]?

whose fingers are ten armies!

Anti-war?

There’s a lot of exclamation marks and angry energy.

Moloch who entered my soul early!

[[Hegemony]].

Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy!

Yearning for nature?

Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky!

^ [[The Matrix]] vibes.

After a first read through, I’m thinking Ginsberg was seriously angry about over-consumption and technology in the pursuit of money, at the expense of nature (or something more ‘natural’). I don’t know who he thinks has sold out and made this sacrifice. People in general? He himself maybe. I should read the other parts.

Words to describe Moloch

Solitude!
Filth!
Ugliness!
Nightmare
Loveless
Heavy judger
Incomprehensible prison
Crossbone soulless jailhouse
Congress of sorrows
etc

📄 images/moloch.png contributed by 👤 @neil ️🔗 ✍️

📄 moloch.myco contributed by 👤 @melanocarpa ️🔗 ✍️

Moloch is one of those in Babylon.

http://thoughtstorms.info/view/Moloch

"Moloch" is just a rather poetical metaphor for any "system" which feels like it's getting out of control and starting to constrain / push your actions in ways which aren't in your interest.

Or to put it another way it's a convenient shorthand for "emergent badness".

Alexander Kuprin has a novel about Moloch's manifestation called “Moloch”. I listened to an audioversion of it on December of 2023. It's one of few books that made me enraged. I was literally angry to hear what I was hearing. It means it's a good book.

“Moloch” follows the story of an engineer Andrey Bobrov. Understanding Moloch's egregore being, he loses nevertheless. Near the end, he puts a fight, but lacks the courage to strike Moloch's in heart.

📄 pages/moloch.md contributed by 👤 @vera-logseq

I read [[meditations on moloch]] for [[node club]] by [[alan gingsberg]]
moloch kinda reminds me of the machine in [[bolo’bolo]]
we are all moloch, moloch is the apparatus, moloch is not a person.
What does the [[death of moloch]] look like?
how do we kill moloch without killing ourselves

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[[2022-08-10 19:28:04]] [[@charismatic_shell:matrix.org]] (link):
- https://melanocarpa.lesarbr.es/hypha/leviathan [[leviathan]]

Leviathan (לויתן) is one of the rulers of Babylon. It is a sea monster, a large serpent with impenetrable scales. Leviathan does not give you choice, it just does what it intends to. It can destroy your home, kill somebody, but it is not to blame, for it is more powerful, than you.

Do we have Leviathan in our mythology? A friend of [[Moloch]]‘s, so it seems.

[[2023-01-20 20:24:53]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] (link):
- even if one thinks the VC scene is overall a net negative for society, I say maybe let [[Moloch]] fund the revolution if they want, and let us just worry about making those resources contribute to the greater good.
[[2024-05-16 21:35:14]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] (link):
- that’s just [[Moloch]] weaving itself into the fabric of society as usual

📄 moloch.md contributed by 👤 @anagora@matrix.org

[[2022-04-10 17:06:50]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] (link):
- you say [[babylon]], I say [[moloch]], I believe
[[2022-04-10 17:07:10]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] (link):
- together we’ll defeat [[babylon]], we’ll defeat [[moloch]]

📄 Moloch.md contributed by 👤 @flancian@social.coop

[[2022-11-19 16:55:51+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109371519925369493:
- I’ve been telling [[Moloch]] in the face I’m coming, and they don’t seem to pay attention to it.Maybe I’m like a bug about to headbutt a windshield.
[[2022-12-01 23:29:47+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109441016648822963:
- "It is not me, but you, who will likely slay [[Moloch]]."— from the Chronicles of Flancia, 2023.
[[2022-12-04 17:48:25+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109456661220524953:
- We could stab [[Moloch]] in the heart at first sight if you wanted, but I’d rather we kept a policy of non violence as a default.Moloch, after all, seems to be an [[egregore]] which evolved with us. As such they’re entangled with human culture and bodies. I don’t see a reason to assume they’re all bad, nor that slaying it wouldn’t cause needless suffering.
[[2022-12-14 20:10:53+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109513844545238450:
- Of course we will slay [[Moloch]].
[[2022-12-16 10:51:58+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109522971424999561:
- I saw clearly that [[Maitreya]] will disarm [[Moloch]].
[[2023-01-04 15:16:34+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109631595748266320:
- Eran las cuatro y cuarto cuando me acordé de que juntos venceremos a #Moloch.
[[2023-01-04 15:48:50+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109631722631805110:
- @agora pero en #Flancia vencimos a [[Moloch]].
[[2023-01-04 23:08:47+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109633452611648670:
- Algún día, dicen.
  Algún día venceremos a [[Moloch]].
  ¿Pero si no hoy, cuándo?
[[2023-01-29 16:31:44+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109773449078074544:
- Don’t get me wrong: you can be weak without being pathetic, and you can be pathetic without being weak.But I believe [[Moloch]] is pathetic and weak.
[[2023-01-31 19:44:21+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109785531138288922:
- "We will try to get to the heart of [[Moloch]] tonight, and on the 31st of every month by default if we fail today."From "The Chronicles of Flancia", ca. 2027.
[[2023-02-03 17:45:25+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109802050390887489:
- Maybe we will slay [[Moloch]] tonight.
[[2023-02-03 22:14:06+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109803106867579623:
- With all this, which includes the intelligence and the good of many of my friends (and this enheartens me), I will try to face [[Moloch]] in the open.
[[2023-02-03 22:18:09+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109803122841076230:
- "Algún día.Algún día venceremos a [[Moloch]].¿Pero si no ahora, cuándo?"De las Crónicas de Flancia, #2023.
[[2023-02-04 16:01:38+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109807304631645172:
- I wish to do
  [[eight pomodoros]]
  fighting [[Moloch]]
[[2023-02-17 19:57:35+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109881842413519248:
- We’ll defeat [[Moloch]] this weekend!
[[2023-02-17 20:40:29+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] https://social.coop/@flancian/109882011098549379:
- I’ve seen it:We will use the tools of [[Moloch]] to defeat them! If nothing else because they were our tools: enclosed, repackaged, and resold to us.
[[2023-12-25 16:47:12+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- #Flancia is the reform against #Moloch
[[2024-02-15 18:12:22+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- Google might have been taken over by [[Moloch]]momentarilybut this [[decadence]] will not stand
[[2024-03-01 18:19:55+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- Overhead (not really):"A shame… [[Moloch]] has taken them."
[[2024-09-04 12:52:09+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- [[Moloch]] might kill the internet… or the first incarnation of it, anyway.https://techpolicy.social/@mnot/113075695485597228
[[2024-09-13 19:27:06+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- I’m often out and picking a fight with [[Moloch]]
[[2024-10-06 16:12:46+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- @DrALJONES I sometimes call the power-hungry anti-social those who adore [[Moloch]]
[[2024-11-10 15:48:18+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- Algún día
  Algún día venceremos a [[Moloch]]Pero si no ahora, cuándo?
[[2024-11-26 18:44:36+00:00]] @[[flancian@social.coop]] (link):
- We will defeat [[Moloch]]!

📄 Moloch.md contributed by 👤 @flancian@twitter.com

[[2022-10-21 14:33:57+00:00]] @[[flancian]]: https://twitter.com/flancian/status/1583466624497389568

This I tell you, [[Moloch]]: I’ll slay you if I have to, without killing

📄 moloch.md contributed by 👤 @flancian@twitter.com

[[flancian]] https://twitter.com/flancian/status/1576190763968253953
- [[moloch]]! @an_agora

#go https://t.co/LDP6DKl7v7 https://t.co/JQkuGGeaVo

📄 Moloch.md contributed by 👤 @flaneur@merveilles.town

[[2023-01-31 19:41:01+00:00]] @[[flaneur@merveilles.town]] https://merveilles.town/@flaneur/109785518032368449:
- "We will get to the heart of [[Moloch]] tonight", they said.
[[2023-07-14 16:47:02+00:00]] @[[flaneur@merveilles.town]] (link):
- I dreamt I was an arrow
  flying straight
  straight, straight
  into the heart of [[Moloch]]
[[2023-07-14 16:50:10+00:00]] @[[flaneur@merveilles.town]] (link):
- I dreamt I was an arrow
  always bending
  blazing
  through the heart of [[Moloch]]

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