Jason Hickel likes [[Doughnut Economics]]. DE presents itself as somewhat growth-agnostic, and Kate Raworth doesn’t like the term degrowth. Hickel says that where degrowth comes in is that developed countries need degrowth to get back in the doughnut. And developing countries need growth to get into the doughnut. Once inside the doughnut, in both cases, the aim would be to stay steady within it.