• [[vera]]
• [[sutty]]
  • [[cooperativa de diseño]]
  • [[partido pirata]]
    • [[fauno]]
• [[cognacore]]
• [[esalen institute]]
• [[dan whaley]]
  • [[push]] [[i annotate]]
    • [[i annotate 2021]]
• [[mastery]]
• [[unwalled garden]]
• [[midnight run]]
• [[hypha]]
  • [[distributed press]]
• [[google docs]]
• [[do]]

• [[distributed press 2021-05-19]]
• I want to work on [[agora proposal platform]]
• [[agora proposals]] for proposal ideas
• #meetings

  • [[logical tea party]]

    • 2pm

  • Call series about [[distributed press]] and related topics

    • [[hypha coop]] call with [[Paul Frazee]]
    • 8am
    • https://link.hypha.coop/compost-calls
    • https://github.com/hyphacoop/distributed-press-organizing/issues/39
    • Call topics:
      • [[unwalled.garden]]
        • questions
          • how is this similar to/different than [[ctzn]]
      • [[social api]]
        • [[matters.news]]
      • [[indieweb]]

  • Attendees

  • [[flancian]]

  • [[vera]]

  • [[Paul Frazee]]

  • [[benhylau]]

    • gateways can censor content

  • [[guo]]

    • looking at [[ipfs]] or [[hypercore]]
    • [[webmentions]] [[microformats]]

  • [[sutty]]

  • [[fauno]]

    [[ipfs gateways]]

  • [[Paul Frazee]]

    • say you’re [[twitter]], 1000 users.
    • 1000 users only one using service but having to pay for storage/bandwidth of 1000 poor scaling properties
    • gateway not feasible model
    • what are the costs
    • magic of the mesh
    • serverless clients participate in network

  • [[guo]]

    • gateways become the point of failure in a distributed network

  • [[flancian]]

    • subsidies gateway not for profit

      [[beaker]]

  • social network on beaker

  • got discouraged with social networks

    • came back

  • people wanna be able to share around links

  • didn’t have push messaging system

  • take advantage of social graph

  • ux killer

    • people expect to get notifcations from people
    • people need to follow out of band
    • limited push message
    • aggregator service notifications

      • really close to running gateway, running a service

      • let’s just use services

      • take your data and move to other "place"

        [[minimum viable exchange format]]

  • all these technologies converge into this

  • [[indieweb]]

  • [[microformats]]

  • [[minimal social graph]]

    • [[guo]]
      • can be [[ipfs]] can be [[dat]]
      • have to have an aggregator, how do you know if there’s new content
      • how do you do search
      • separate data aggregator and host
    • [[flancian]]
      • [[underlay project]]
    • [[Paul Frazee]]
      • [[data mesh]]
        • basically function like database
          • way for semantic
          • tables in there with universal ide (url based to find schema)
          • universal global data mesh, with global semantics
          • [[governance of the commons]]
    • [[guo]]

      • if we can determine ownership we can help with [[governance]] issue

      • if it’s my data, there is no [[governance]] issue

        [[commons mesh]]

  • how do you end up in a situation where [[governance]] is required

  • what are defaults

  • sign up for first time, what’s being suggested

    [[fatal ambiguity]]

2021-05-19

• [[Free, Fair and Alive]] calls the word [[citizen]] a ‘keyword from a failing era’ and prefers [[commoner]].
  • [[Commoner vs Citizen]]

11:56 some ideas from last night

website

where i list my opinions and rank my confidence in those opinions. maybe use the sorter ecosystem thing to rank how highly i believe in the opinions

studying

how other people use the internet is probably my favorite hobby. it's fascinating to me how others choose to navigate the same spaces in such different ways - eventually accumulating experience to some peak, dropping off the internet entirely, becoming inactive, or flatlining and posting consistently forever. some become more abstract - focusing more and more on art projects and metatheories of the internet rather than concrete ideas and discussions - while others become much more serious and real, playing internet drama nad political games to try to accumulate social clout. some people share as little of their life as possible while others are incredibly social and active, exposing every detail of their lives. this deserves more research - how does internet addiction craft and shape the people who choose to actively contribute to it? how does it transform the attitudes of those who don't use the internet frequently - as by virtue of existing now everyone plays a part? it's unclear

12:20 reaching out to others on the internet

is the most incredible thing. put lots of energy out there and you will recieve all of it in return because the people you are reaching out to are people, not public figures or intimidating prescences or brick walls of content - they are people, people who will respond to you, people who can reciprocate their admiration of your work, people who share your passions.

it's really hitting me that i need to finish some work i'm proud of - without it i will not be able to really impress others or gain respect from others, which will lead to me learning more, which will lead to me doing other very cool things.